Dr. Nate Woods, Jr. and Jason Wiedl: Modeling Inclusion and Making Tomorrow

1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:11,880 Welcome to Tomorrow Makers, where we explore how we learn, live, work, and play now and 2 00:00:11,880 --> 00:00:12,880 in the future. 3 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:14,600 I'm Carlos Ramos. 4 00:00:14,600 --> 00:00:15,600 And I'm Sumer Beatty. 5 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:16,600 Hi, Sumer. 6 00:00:16,600 --> 00:00:17,600 Hi. 7 00:00:17,600 --> 00:00:18,600 How are you doing? 8 00:00:18,600 --> 00:00:19,600 I'm great. 9 00:00:19,600 --> 00:00:20,600 How are you? 10 00:00:20,600 --> 00:00:21,600 I'm doing wonderful. 11 00:00:21,600 --> 00:00:22,600 So we're talking right before recording this. 12 00:00:22,600 --> 00:00:24,800 This is the very first Tomorrow Makers podcast. 13 00:00:24,800 --> 00:00:29,760 We're like, how do we make this thing, this Penn College podcast? 14 00:00:29,760 --> 00:00:34,480 This thing that's coming to everyone from Pennsylvania College of Technology. 15 00:00:34,480 --> 00:00:40,560 It's going to have experts and other guests from, not to say that other guests aren't 16 00:00:40,560 --> 00:00:42,640 experts but anyway. 17 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:43,640 So they're all experts. 18 00:00:43,640 --> 00:00:44,640 Everyone's an expert. 19 00:00:44,640 --> 00:00:45,640 We are declaring that right now. 20 00:00:45,640 --> 00:00:49,320 So you know when you're listening, you're listening to an expert. 21 00:00:49,320 --> 00:00:53,620 So we got all these experts from across Penn College campus community. 22 00:00:53,620 --> 00:00:56,000 And we're like, how do we make this relevant? 23 00:00:56,000 --> 00:01:00,760 How do we say that this is relevant to everyone else out there because it is? 24 00:01:00,760 --> 00:01:01,760 How do we do that? 25 00:01:01,760 --> 00:01:03,240 Yeah, I think you did. 26 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:07,160 I feel like if you're listening to this, give us five minutes, give us 10 minutes, you will 27 00:01:07,160 --> 00:01:08,160 see. 28 00:01:08,160 --> 00:01:12,260 I feel like you'll connect with us regardless if you're here on campus or you're across 29 00:01:12,260 --> 00:01:13,260 the nation. 30 00:01:13,260 --> 00:01:14,260 All right. 31 00:01:14,260 --> 00:01:15,260 Check it out. 32 00:01:15,260 --> 00:01:16,260 Perfect. 33 00:01:16,260 --> 00:01:18,760 Well, we start things off on a high note. 34 00:01:18,760 --> 00:01:20,980 And I think we're going to keep going higher as we go. 35 00:01:20,980 --> 00:01:23,720 But I mean, we set the bar high here with our first guests. 36 00:01:23,720 --> 00:01:25,080 You want to talk about it? 37 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:32,280 So we have Dr. Nate Woods, and he is our special assistant to the President for Inclusion Transformation. 38 00:01:32,280 --> 00:01:38,140 And so before we started the podcast, we sent out a survey, just a bunch of people across 39 00:01:38,140 --> 00:01:40,720 campus here, who should we have on the podcast? 40 00:01:40,720 --> 00:01:42,480 And the name that just kept coming up. 41 00:01:42,480 --> 00:01:44,960 You got to have Nate on the podcast. 42 00:01:44,960 --> 00:01:47,040 And if you've met Nate, you know why. 43 00:01:47,040 --> 00:01:48,040 Yeah. 44 00:01:48,040 --> 00:01:50,360 Now, hopefully, we have a lot of people that don't know Nate. 45 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:51,360 Yeah, sure. 46 00:01:51,360 --> 00:01:54,840 And if you don't know Nate, I think, you know, Carlos said, how do we describe Nate? 47 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:56,480 I feel like he's a changemaker. 48 00:01:56,480 --> 00:01:58,800 I just think he's got that energy. 49 00:01:58,800 --> 00:02:00,680 And if you meet him, you will know. 50 00:02:00,680 --> 00:02:02,920 And when you hear him, I think you'll also know. 51 00:02:02,920 --> 00:02:05,420 So we're really excited about this one. 52 00:02:05,420 --> 00:02:11,040 And because we want this to be a conversation, we thought it made sense. 53 00:02:11,040 --> 00:02:13,180 Let's get a student in this. 54 00:02:13,180 --> 00:02:18,960 And Jason Wiedl, construction management student, he came to us and he's like, why 55 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:20,600 don't you have a podcast? 56 00:02:20,600 --> 00:02:22,560 I think he said it a lot nicer than that. 57 00:02:22,560 --> 00:02:23,560 He did. 58 00:02:23,560 --> 00:02:24,920 No, so was that great? 59 00:02:24,920 --> 00:02:26,440 Yeah, we'll make a podcast. 60 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:29,360 But guess who's going to be on that first one? 61 00:02:29,360 --> 00:02:30,360 So we have Jason. 62 00:02:30,360 --> 00:02:31,360 Yeah, that's great. 63 00:02:31,360 --> 00:02:35,500 So we got a little bit of back and forth with Jason and with Nate. 64 00:02:35,500 --> 00:02:40,320 And we got some new equipment and we played with the equipment. 65 00:02:40,320 --> 00:02:42,560 And that didn't go so wonderfully. 66 00:02:42,560 --> 00:02:43,560 But it is wonderful. 67 00:02:43,560 --> 00:02:44,560 Let them decide. 68 00:02:44,560 --> 00:02:46,120 Maybe they'll love it. 69 00:02:46,120 --> 00:02:48,000 Let us know what you think. 70 00:02:48,000 --> 00:02:54,120 So without further ado, here it is Tomorrow Makers, a Penn College podcast. 71 00:02:54,120 --> 00:02:55,120 Enjoy. 72 00:02:55,120 --> 00:02:56,120 Enjoy. 73 00:02:56,120 --> 00:03:00,560 This is so legit. 74 00:03:00,560 --> 00:03:03,040 We are recording now. 75 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:04,040 So yeah. 76 00:03:04,040 --> 00:03:05,040 All right. 77 00:03:05,040 --> 00:03:06,040 What's happening? 78 00:03:06,040 --> 00:03:09,040 Oh, it didn't work. 79 00:03:09,040 --> 00:03:11,040 Oh, yeah. 80 00:03:11,040 --> 00:03:14,040 Still wildcat waiting. 81 00:03:14,040 --> 00:03:17,040 Oh my goodness. 82 00:03:17,040 --> 00:03:21,960 We still don't know the name of this podcast. 83 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:25,360 It could be Wildcast. 84 00:03:25,360 --> 00:03:27,600 I think we're are we are we into that? 85 00:03:27,600 --> 00:03:28,600 The Wildcast? 86 00:03:28,600 --> 00:03:29,600 I don't think so. 87 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:30,600 I don't think we're into that. 88 00:03:30,600 --> 00:03:31,600 No. 89 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:32,600 Everybody likes Tomorrow Makers. 90 00:03:32,600 --> 00:03:33,600 Yeah. 91 00:03:33,600 --> 00:03:34,600 Welcome to the Tomorrow Makers. 92 00:03:34,600 --> 00:03:35,600 I did it again. 93 00:03:35,600 --> 00:03:41,400 I can't go the Tomorrow Makers, the Penn College podcast. 94 00:03:41,400 --> 00:03:43,080 It's got to be Tomorrow Makers. 95 00:03:43,080 --> 00:03:46,160 Welcome to Tomorrow Makers, the Penn College podcast. 96 00:03:46,160 --> 00:03:47,160 Yes, you got it. 97 00:03:47,160 --> 00:03:48,160 That's perfect. 98 00:03:48,160 --> 00:03:49,160 Yeah. 99 00:03:49,160 --> 00:03:50,160 I like it. 100 00:03:50,160 --> 00:03:51,160 All right. 101 00:03:51,160 --> 00:03:52,160 It's actually strong with the music, too. 102 00:03:52,160 --> 00:03:53,160 That makes so much sense. 103 00:03:53,160 --> 00:03:54,160 Oh, but it's not long enough. 104 00:03:54,160 --> 00:04:01,160 We're going to have to come up with some of our own music. 105 00:04:01,160 --> 00:04:02,440 All right. 106 00:04:02,440 --> 00:04:03,920 I'm Carlos. 107 00:04:03,920 --> 00:04:04,920 And I'm Sumer. 108 00:04:04,920 --> 00:04:06,920 And we're here with Jason. 109 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:10,520 And do we say Dr. Woods or do you want to go more informal? 110 00:04:10,520 --> 00:04:11,520 We can go informal. 111 00:04:11,520 --> 00:04:12,520 We're here. 112 00:04:12,520 --> 00:04:13,520 All right. 113 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:14,520 We're hanging out. 114 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:15,520 All right. 115 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:17,880 So you guys want to introduce yourselves? 116 00:04:17,880 --> 00:04:18,880 Yeah. 117 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:19,880 So I'm Jason Wiedl. 118 00:04:19,880 --> 00:04:23,280 I'm a student here at Penn College in the construction management program. 119 00:04:23,280 --> 00:04:26,320 I'm also a student ambassador and a resident assistant. 120 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:27,760 So yeah. 121 00:04:27,760 --> 00:04:29,480 You want me to follow that up? 122 00:04:29,480 --> 00:04:30,480 You got it. 123 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:31,480 Okay. 124 00:04:31,480 --> 00:04:35,720 So I'm Nate Woods, special assistant to the president for inclusion. 125 00:04:35,720 --> 00:04:37,960 I don't have anything else. 126 00:04:37,960 --> 00:04:40,120 Oh, you don't? 127 00:04:40,120 --> 00:04:44,240 I thought your title was inclusion transformation. 128 00:04:44,240 --> 00:04:45,400 You left. 129 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:46,400 That's not. 130 00:04:46,400 --> 00:04:50,880 So special assistant to the president for inclusion. 131 00:04:50,880 --> 00:04:51,880 Oh, transformation. 132 00:04:51,880 --> 00:04:54,160 You left off the heavy word there. 133 00:04:54,160 --> 00:04:55,160 Transformation. 134 00:04:55,160 --> 00:04:56,160 My goodness. 135 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:57,160 I'm slipping. 136 00:04:57,160 --> 00:04:58,160 I thought maybe we were done. 137 00:04:58,160 --> 00:04:59,160 We're done transforming. 138 00:04:59,160 --> 00:05:00,160 You did your job. 139 00:05:00,160 --> 00:05:01,160 You made it happen. 140 00:05:01,160 --> 00:05:02,160 Not in a year. 141 00:05:02,160 --> 00:05:05,160 Not in a year. 142 00:05:05,160 --> 00:05:06,160 No. 143 00:05:06,160 --> 00:05:09,200 So special assistant to the president for inclusion transformation. 144 00:05:09,200 --> 00:05:14,800 I spend so much time talking about the inclusion portion because that's the real work is when 145 00:05:14,800 --> 00:05:18,000 you do the inclusion piece, the transformation happens. 146 00:05:18,000 --> 00:05:25,480 And so whoever came up with my title, we're forward-thinking and they really thought through 147 00:05:25,480 --> 00:05:26,480 that. 148 00:05:26,480 --> 00:05:27,480 So that's cool. 149 00:05:27,480 --> 00:05:28,480 But I'm saying, what's that Jason? 150 00:05:28,480 --> 00:05:29,480 Come on, man. 151 00:05:29,480 --> 00:05:30,480 Come on. 152 00:05:30,480 --> 00:05:31,480 Oh, this is awesome. 153 00:05:31,480 --> 00:05:34,080 I'm really looking forward to good conversation today. 154 00:05:34,080 --> 00:05:35,080 No doubt. 155 00:05:35,080 --> 00:05:36,080 No doubt. 156 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:37,080 Yeah. 157 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:38,080 And Jason, you just came from a final this morning, right? 158 00:05:38,080 --> 00:05:39,080 I did. 159 00:05:39,080 --> 00:05:40,080 I did. 160 00:05:40,080 --> 00:05:41,080 So last one, last one of the semester. 161 00:05:41,080 --> 00:05:42,080 So I'm excited. 162 00:05:42,080 --> 00:05:43,720 What are you doing this summer? 163 00:05:43,720 --> 00:05:49,280 I have an internship lined up back at home for a general contractor. 164 00:05:49,280 --> 00:05:52,920 We're doing some redevelopment in downtown Pittston right on Main Street. 165 00:05:52,920 --> 00:05:55,200 So looking forward to that. 166 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:56,200 Nice. 167 00:05:56,200 --> 00:05:57,200 Redevelopment. 168 00:05:57,200 --> 00:05:58,200 Yep. 169 00:05:58,200 --> 00:05:59,200 Geez, man. 170 00:05:59,200 --> 00:06:00,200 Amazing. 171 00:06:00,200 --> 00:06:01,200 Amazing. 172 00:06:01,200 --> 00:06:02,200 I'm excited. 173 00:06:02,200 --> 00:06:05,480 So all right, let's get started here. 174 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,480 All right, let's work. 175 00:06:07,480 --> 00:06:08,480 All right. 176 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:11,120 So just kind of keeping it informal. 177 00:06:11,120 --> 00:06:13,920 It's been a little bit since we talked. 178 00:06:13,920 --> 00:06:16,360 So how's everything been? 179 00:06:16,360 --> 00:06:17,360 It's good. 180 00:06:17,360 --> 00:06:18,840 So family is great. 181 00:06:18,840 --> 00:06:23,520 I love being on campus and I love the people. 182 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:28,600 I just spent, you know, two days ago, I was working in dining services. 183 00:06:28,600 --> 00:06:31,740 So I worked there from seven to two serving. 184 00:06:31,740 --> 00:06:37,200 And I think that this is what's amazing is you get an opportunity to like truly we get 185 00:06:37,200 --> 00:06:38,200 an opportunity. 186 00:06:38,200 --> 00:06:42,720 I get the privilege to go and work in different areas and departments to better understand 187 00:06:42,720 --> 00:06:43,720 the culture. 188 00:06:43,720 --> 00:06:50,440 And so that's been probably the most rewarding piece so far is getting to know everyone and 189 00:06:50,440 --> 00:06:52,540 spend time with them. 190 00:06:52,540 --> 00:06:53,840 So that's what's been happening. 191 00:06:53,840 --> 00:06:54,840 Nice. 192 00:06:54,840 --> 00:06:55,840 Yeah. 193 00:06:55,840 --> 00:06:56,840 So nothing new. 194 00:06:56,840 --> 00:06:58,760 I mean, I feel like you've been doing that since you started. 195 00:06:58,760 --> 00:06:59,760 Oh, yeah. 196 00:06:59,760 --> 00:07:06,680 So yeah, so kind of going off a little bit of our conversation already with your title 197 00:07:06,680 --> 00:07:09,840 of special assistant to the president for inclusion transformation. 198 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:12,800 It's a tall order. 199 00:07:12,800 --> 00:07:18,700 So the word transformation is powerful and holds a lot of power there. 200 00:07:18,700 --> 00:07:23,480 So can you walk us through a little bit of like what you do here in your role at Penn 201 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:24,480 College? 202 00:07:24,480 --> 00:07:25,480 Yeah. 203 00:07:25,480 --> 00:07:27,280 So there's a lot of things that happen. 204 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:29,280 If I could just simplify it. 205 00:07:29,280 --> 00:07:31,480 What I do here in Penn College is twofold. 206 00:07:31,480 --> 00:07:36,520 So I work on systematic change and then programming. 207 00:07:36,520 --> 00:07:38,320 That's really the basis of what I do. 208 00:07:38,320 --> 00:07:44,400 So systematic is the things if you look at construction, the systematic portion are the 209 00:07:44,400 --> 00:07:49,880 things that I do behind the walls, like the electric, the plumbing, you know, the things 210 00:07:49,880 --> 00:07:55,140 people don't see, but it allows you to function at a greater capacity within your home. 211 00:07:55,140 --> 00:07:58,260 And then there's the programming portion, which is the things that you see. 212 00:07:58,260 --> 00:08:03,240 So the beautiful kitchen, you know, the bathroom, the tile is nice. 213 00:08:03,240 --> 00:08:05,240 You know, that's it. 214 00:08:05,240 --> 00:08:10,060 So it's the programming, the things that people see that makes the systematic work easier 215 00:08:10,060 --> 00:08:16,280 because they have a visible or something that's visual and tangible that they can touch. 216 00:08:16,280 --> 00:08:20,240 So they can say, oh, I see now what Nate was talking about because we have programming 217 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:21,240 for that. 218 00:08:21,240 --> 00:08:22,440 It makes sense now. 219 00:08:22,440 --> 00:08:27,520 But it's the real work, the long-term work is in the systematic change. 220 00:08:27,520 --> 00:08:33,640 If that doesn't happen, programming is essentially useless because it's formality and not real 221 00:08:33,640 --> 00:08:35,440 change. 222 00:08:35,440 --> 00:08:36,920 Nice. 223 00:08:36,920 --> 00:08:42,560 So, yeah, so I mean, we're happy that you came here to Penn College, but it's been a 224 00:08:42,560 --> 00:08:44,800 long, long journey. 225 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:49,640 And so what kind of brought you here to Penn College, to Williamsport, Pennsylvania? 226 00:08:49,640 --> 00:08:50,640 Wow. 227 00:08:50,640 --> 00:08:55,520 So I'm originally from North Carolina and a country boy from Salisbury. 228 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:57,640 Shout out to Salisbury. 229 00:08:57,640 --> 00:08:59,840 It's not Salisbury. 230 00:08:59,840 --> 00:09:01,440 Salisbury steak. 231 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:03,600 No, it's not that. 232 00:09:03,600 --> 00:09:06,960 Salisbury, North Carolina, originally from there. 233 00:09:06,960 --> 00:09:13,560 And when I just continued to progress in my career, we ended up in Washington state and 234 00:09:13,560 --> 00:09:19,120 I was the workforce dean of education there and a tenured faculty member in human services. 235 00:09:19,120 --> 00:09:22,080 And it was an amazing opportunity where we were at. 236 00:09:22,080 --> 00:09:27,400 My wife was in athletics as an assistant athletic director and we were doing great things, but 237 00:09:27,400 --> 00:09:28,400 we were homesick. 238 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:30,760 East Coast, baby, let's go. 239 00:09:30,760 --> 00:09:35,920 So we needed to get back to the East Coast and my wife ended up being hired at Lycoming 240 00:09:35,920 --> 00:09:38,080 College and it was a great opportunity. 241 00:09:38,080 --> 00:09:46,760 And from there, Mike Reed and forgive me, Dr. Reed and Dr. Gilmore ended up getting 242 00:09:46,760 --> 00:09:47,760 my resume. 243 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:49,320 We had a couple of conversations. 244 00:09:49,320 --> 00:09:54,200 Hillary was brought into the picture and I came here for an interview that lasted all 245 00:09:54,200 --> 00:09:55,200 day. 246 00:09:55,200 --> 00:09:56,200 All day. 247 00:09:56,200 --> 00:09:57,200 Yeah, all day. 248 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:01,160 Like a hundred people. 249 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:04,800 Yeah, they met with about 25 to 100. 250 00:10:04,800 --> 00:10:08,240 Yeah, it all literally all day interview. 251 00:10:08,240 --> 00:10:09,240 But it was amazing. 252 00:10:09,240 --> 00:10:14,160 And I was just floored at the campus and the amount of work. 253 00:10:14,160 --> 00:10:16,640 I met Pace and Joanna then and they showed me around. 254 00:10:16,640 --> 00:10:17,640 It was amazing. 255 00:10:17,640 --> 00:10:19,080 And I met so many people. 256 00:10:19,080 --> 00:10:23,200 I don't even remember everyone that I met that day. 257 00:10:23,200 --> 00:10:26,160 But there were so many people, so many people. 258 00:10:26,160 --> 00:10:34,000 But a funny story, Dr. Reed and I, this is how we talk about just authenticity and being 259 00:10:34,000 --> 00:10:35,360 like full of candor, right? 260 00:10:35,360 --> 00:10:38,720 And so we're sitting down and we're in the interview and he's sitting across from me 261 00:10:38,720 --> 00:10:44,120 and we're on the patio behind CC and he has a necktie on and I have a necktie on. 262 00:10:44,120 --> 00:10:45,120 You want to come right? 263 00:10:45,120 --> 00:10:49,120 So all tied up and we're just talking about candor and honesty and everything. 264 00:10:49,120 --> 00:10:55,220 And I said, look, if I can be transparent, I wouldn't have worn his necktie. 265 00:10:55,220 --> 00:10:56,400 He said, for real? 266 00:10:56,400 --> 00:10:58,480 He said, I don't wear a necktie either. 267 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,000 I was looking at my wife saying, which tie should I wear? 268 00:11:01,000 --> 00:11:03,160 I said, I don't like neckties anymore. 269 00:11:03,160 --> 00:11:04,160 He said, I don't either. 270 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:05,160 So guess what we did? 271 00:11:05,160 --> 00:11:07,080 He was like, I said, well, I'm about to take this off. 272 00:11:07,080 --> 00:11:08,080 He said, me too. 273 00:11:08,080 --> 00:11:11,840 And we snatched off our neckties and we finished the rest of the interview. 274 00:11:11,840 --> 00:11:17,040 And it was just, it was really cool because we came in the appropriate way. 275 00:11:17,040 --> 00:11:21,600 But after much dialogue and conversation, we were able to just connect a different way. 276 00:11:21,600 --> 00:11:23,640 And Pace was laughing. 277 00:11:23,640 --> 00:11:27,000 I've never seen this in an interview, but we just snatched our neckties off. 278 00:11:27,000 --> 00:11:28,680 I was like, cool, let's keep going. 279 00:11:28,680 --> 00:11:31,160 And it's feel a lot better now. 280 00:11:31,160 --> 00:11:34,600 We were able to let our hair down and continue in that authentic work. 281 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:38,720 And I think it's shown in some of the work that we've been able to do so far. 282 00:11:38,720 --> 00:11:42,360 Yeah, I think that we see that here at the college. 283 00:11:42,360 --> 00:11:49,680 I mean, historically, we embrace the casualness when we need to, but when we need to get to 284 00:11:49,680 --> 00:11:50,680 work. 285 00:11:50,680 --> 00:11:51,680 Most times work. 286 00:11:51,680 --> 00:11:52,680 We get to work. 287 00:11:52,680 --> 00:11:53,680 Absolutely. 288 00:11:53,680 --> 00:11:56,000 And I think we move at a faster pace in most places. 289 00:11:56,000 --> 00:11:58,860 And some would say, no, no, no, no, we really do. 290 00:11:58,860 --> 00:12:02,440 We move at a faster clip than most places. 291 00:12:02,440 --> 00:12:04,760 They're going to spend a lot more time deliberating. 292 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:11,000 And there's some things we still move slow with, but for good cause, right? 293 00:12:11,000 --> 00:12:13,120 Sometimes you need to slow down so you can move further. 294 00:12:13,120 --> 00:12:18,160 But we move at a faster pace than most organizations in education, seriously. 295 00:12:18,160 --> 00:12:19,160 Oh, yeah. 296 00:12:19,160 --> 00:12:25,480 And I think we've seen that throughout your time here, throughout Dr. Reed's time, and 297 00:12:25,480 --> 00:12:27,880 hopefully in the future too, moving forward. 298 00:12:27,880 --> 00:12:28,880 Absolutely. 299 00:12:28,880 --> 00:12:35,080 So you kind of talk about the casual aspect of that day when you came for your interview 300 00:12:35,080 --> 00:12:36,080 here at Penn College. 301 00:12:36,080 --> 00:12:40,960 Was there anything else that day or that you've seen since that's really unique and stands 302 00:12:40,960 --> 00:12:43,840 out, catches your eye about Penn College? 303 00:12:43,840 --> 00:12:45,900 Yeah, I think more than anything, the people. 304 00:12:45,900 --> 00:12:48,720 So the people are unique. 305 00:12:48,720 --> 00:12:53,000 And so the fact that we have a lot of industry individuals here that are working, that are 306 00:12:53,000 --> 00:12:54,680 teaching, that's a big deal. 307 00:12:54,680 --> 00:12:56,680 And that's rare. 308 00:12:56,680 --> 00:13:00,700 Something else that you see is the heart for the student. 309 00:13:00,700 --> 00:13:05,040 So you can walk on this campus and we can disagree about 15,000 things. 310 00:13:05,040 --> 00:13:09,400 But the one thing everyone will agree on is we're going to do this for the students. 311 00:13:09,400 --> 00:13:11,920 And we're going to put aside our differences and we're going to make sure our students 312 00:13:11,920 --> 00:13:15,980 are in the best hands and they have the best equipment and they have the best experience 313 00:13:15,980 --> 00:13:20,120 so that they can be great Tomorrow Makers. 314 00:13:20,120 --> 00:13:25,120 You saw how through that plug. 315 00:13:25,120 --> 00:13:32,080 That's when we break for commercial. 316 00:13:32,080 --> 00:13:37,120 So we talk about everything that Penn College has to offer and the uniqueness here. 317 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:41,720 Is there anything that you want to see at Penn College, you want to see happen here 318 00:13:41,720 --> 00:13:43,520 in the near future? 319 00:13:43,520 --> 00:13:58,960 Yeah, well, one, I would love, I think one day, and Dr. Reed probably said it best, we 320 00:13:58,960 --> 00:14:05,840 shouldn't be, no longer should we be excited about being the hidden secret, like that hidden 321 00:14:05,840 --> 00:14:07,600 jewel or that hidden diamond. 322 00:14:07,600 --> 00:14:10,520 Okay, those days are long gone. 323 00:14:10,520 --> 00:14:13,040 People need to know about us. 324 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:14,640 We should be talked about. 325 00:14:14,640 --> 00:14:18,680 And I think that's the one thing that I would like to see change is just, and that's not 326 00:14:18,680 --> 00:14:20,040 a marketing thing. 327 00:14:20,040 --> 00:14:22,800 It is an awareness, right? 328 00:14:22,800 --> 00:14:25,640 And so it's not just, because we've always so simple as marketing. 329 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:28,000 It's not that simple. 330 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:33,320 We need like people getting out speaking, showcasing our students. 331 00:14:33,320 --> 00:14:37,560 And when alum is out, like we talk about and we've seen that and that's why we're growing 332 00:14:37,560 --> 00:14:38,560 like we are. 333 00:14:38,560 --> 00:14:42,320 That's why scholarships are at an all-time high and you know, college relations are doing 334 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:47,280 so well, raising funding and then workforce education is so strong is because we're getting 335 00:14:47,280 --> 00:14:48,640 our name out there. 336 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:54,000 And all I would like to see is us continue that and not slow down, but just hit it harder. 337 00:14:54,000 --> 00:15:03,080 Even the idea of partnering with other colleges so that students want to come from other places 338 00:15:03,080 --> 00:15:04,080 here. 339 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:07,240 So they may get some stuff there and then they come here or may get some stuff here 340 00:15:07,240 --> 00:15:09,560 and you go there to get a master's or a doctorate. 341 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:13,120 But because we have agreements, that would be amazing, right? 342 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:19,920 So if Yale said, oh, we need that hands-on that you provide, but we want to offer something 343 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:21,400 else and we would love to partner with you. 344 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:23,180 That's mind-blowing. 345 00:15:23,180 --> 00:15:25,200 Not throwing them out there. 346 00:15:25,200 --> 00:15:28,480 It would just be cool to see that type of partnership with other institutions. 347 00:15:28,480 --> 00:15:29,480 Yeah, definitely. 348 00:15:29,480 --> 00:15:34,480 And when you have as many employers coming here for a career fair as there are students, 349 00:15:34,480 --> 00:15:38,680 I mean, we definitely need to get some more students here. 350 00:15:38,680 --> 00:15:41,120 So the growth matters, right? 351 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:44,580 We can't produce students fast enough. 352 00:15:44,580 --> 00:15:47,320 What an amazing problem to have. 353 00:15:47,320 --> 00:15:50,200 We can't produce students fast enough. 354 00:15:50,200 --> 00:15:51,200 That's amazing. 355 00:15:51,200 --> 00:15:54,720 And someone say, well, just get more students. 356 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:58,680 Diminish the quality. 357 00:15:58,680 --> 00:16:01,920 So it's not as easy as just flipping a light switch to fix it. 358 00:16:01,920 --> 00:16:03,680 It takes strategy and it takes time. 359 00:16:03,680 --> 00:16:04,680 Yeah, definitely. 360 00:16:04,680 --> 00:16:05,680 Yeah, my man. 361 00:16:05,680 --> 00:16:06,680 Keep going. 362 00:16:06,680 --> 00:16:07,680 You're doing great, by the way. 363 00:16:07,680 --> 00:16:08,680 You're doing amazing. 364 00:16:08,680 --> 00:16:10,880 Do we have an applause on there? 365 00:16:10,880 --> 00:16:14,000 We do, but I'm afraid to hit one and find out what might be there. 366 00:16:14,000 --> 00:16:15,000 Try it. 367 00:16:15,000 --> 00:16:16,000 Just do it. 368 00:16:16,000 --> 00:16:17,000 Let's go. 369 00:16:17,000 --> 00:16:18,000 You're doing amazing. 370 00:16:18,000 --> 00:16:19,000 I appreciate it. 371 00:16:19,000 --> 00:16:28,400 I was one button away from the horn. 372 00:16:28,400 --> 00:16:33,120 So this kind of goes back to one of our first conversations. 373 00:16:33,120 --> 00:16:37,180 And it also plays into, as I said earlier, I'm a resident assistant. 374 00:16:37,180 --> 00:16:44,540 So for those who aren't familiar, resident assistants, we conduct all halls at the end 375 00:16:44,540 --> 00:16:52,120 of each year, academic year, which are kind of just a big event in our own little communities 376 00:16:52,120 --> 00:16:55,200 throughout the whole Penn College community. 377 00:16:55,200 --> 00:16:58,720 So there are several different all halls that go on. 378 00:16:58,720 --> 00:17:05,140 So going back to our conversation early, we had some, I know you threw out the idea of 379 00:17:05,140 --> 00:17:09,800 concert and I think you know some people. 380 00:17:09,800 --> 00:17:12,080 So I was thinking instead of doing all these mini... 381 00:17:12,080 --> 00:17:13,440 I feel like this is pressure right now. 382 00:17:13,440 --> 00:17:14,440 I want to say we didn't know. 383 00:17:14,440 --> 00:17:19,440 I was going to ask because I have no idea what he's going to say. 384 00:17:19,440 --> 00:17:22,920 A little bit, but no, I just want to get your opinion on it. 385 00:17:22,920 --> 00:17:29,360 So instead of doing small little all halls, as we call them at the end of the year, I 386 00:17:29,360 --> 00:17:34,880 think we should get one big Penn College celebration. 387 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:37,200 I think that'll be great for our students. 388 00:17:37,200 --> 00:17:41,320 Yeah, I bet you do. 389 00:17:41,320 --> 00:17:43,200 I think we can get something behind it. 390 00:17:43,200 --> 00:17:46,840 You see, I saw you at the midnight breakfast. 391 00:17:46,840 --> 00:17:48,880 That's a huge event here. 392 00:17:48,880 --> 00:17:56,080 We have hundreds of students that come out to that event and really enjoy that event. 393 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:57,080 Outfloured. 394 00:17:57,080 --> 00:18:00,860 You have faculty, you have administration that comes out to the event and shows their 395 00:18:00,860 --> 00:18:02,300 support as well. 396 00:18:02,300 --> 00:18:07,920 I think we can do the same in a concert setting or something for students right on the library 397 00:18:07,920 --> 00:18:08,920 lawn. 398 00:18:08,920 --> 00:18:12,640 I'm not opposed to that, but that's not my call. 399 00:18:12,640 --> 00:18:14,160 Let me be very clear. 400 00:18:14,160 --> 00:18:15,680 I think that would be cool. 401 00:18:15,680 --> 00:18:20,320 So a part of strategy is throw out ideas and we sit down, we take it back. 402 00:18:20,320 --> 00:18:23,200 We don't trash it and say, no, that's not what we're going to do, but there's something 403 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:27,080 that we can definitely look into and then look at the security risk because there's 404 00:18:27,080 --> 00:18:28,800 a security factor involved. 405 00:18:28,800 --> 00:18:29,920 Especially if we do... 406 00:18:29,920 --> 00:18:30,920 The lawn is dope. 407 00:18:30,920 --> 00:18:31,920 Look out there. 408 00:18:31,920 --> 00:18:32,920 It's amazing. 409 00:18:32,920 --> 00:18:33,920 It's green, everything. 410 00:18:33,920 --> 00:18:37,120 And my man's cutting it right now, so it looks really good. 411 00:18:37,120 --> 00:18:40,000 But the thing is, how do we do that? 412 00:18:40,000 --> 00:18:41,000 What does that look like? 413 00:18:41,000 --> 00:18:43,040 There is a cost factor involved. 414 00:18:43,040 --> 00:18:47,040 So that's something I'm okay with bringing that, taking it back to the team and having 415 00:18:47,040 --> 00:18:48,040 that conversation. 416 00:18:48,040 --> 00:18:49,040 Yeah. 417 00:18:49,040 --> 00:18:53,160 I just think when you look at other universities, other colleges, you see some of that. 418 00:18:53,160 --> 00:18:56,760 You see the concerts, the end-of-year celebrations. 419 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:00,200 Who would you like to see? 420 00:19:00,200 --> 00:19:02,880 I think you'll have some differing opinions. 421 00:19:02,880 --> 00:19:04,360 So who would you like to see though? 422 00:19:04,360 --> 00:19:09,320 I do think that a country artist here at Penn College would be fitting. 423 00:19:09,320 --> 00:19:11,160 I think it would hit hard too. 424 00:19:11,160 --> 00:19:14,120 I think you'd get a lot of support behind that, a lot of student involvement. 425 00:19:14,120 --> 00:19:16,120 Let's ask the other guests. 426 00:19:16,120 --> 00:19:19,000 I mean the co-hosts and hosts and whatnot. 427 00:19:19,000 --> 00:19:20,720 So what do we have? 428 00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:21,720 Who would you like to see on campus? 429 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:25,880 Oh, I'd take Queens of the Stone Age and Foo Fighters, the concert that I missed that hit... 430 00:19:25,880 --> 00:19:26,880 Foo Fighters. 431 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:27,880 That's strong. 432 00:19:27,880 --> 00:19:28,880 That's strong. 433 00:19:28,880 --> 00:19:30,480 Who would you... 434 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:32,120 I'm a Lumineers fan. 435 00:19:32,120 --> 00:19:33,120 I'm not familiar. 436 00:19:33,120 --> 00:19:34,120 Okay. 437 00:19:34,120 --> 00:19:35,120 Man. 438 00:19:35,120 --> 00:19:36,120 Indy, I would say. 439 00:19:36,120 --> 00:19:37,120 Okay, Indy. 440 00:19:37,120 --> 00:19:38,120 I like that style. 441 00:19:38,120 --> 00:19:39,120 I think they border on country. 442 00:19:39,120 --> 00:19:40,120 Could they be country? 443 00:19:40,120 --> 00:19:41,120 There's some country vibe, maybe. 444 00:19:41,120 --> 00:19:42,120 I don't know. 445 00:19:42,120 --> 00:19:43,120 Do you know who they are? 446 00:19:43,120 --> 00:19:44,120 I like the Lumineers. 447 00:19:44,120 --> 00:19:45,120 Okay. 448 00:19:45,120 --> 00:19:46,120 It's one of my mom's favorites. 449 00:19:46,120 --> 00:19:47,120 Okay. 450 00:19:47,120 --> 00:19:48,120 No, he didn't do that. 451 00:19:48,120 --> 00:19:49,120 Did he just do that? 452 00:19:49,120 --> 00:19:50,120 He did that. 453 00:19:50,120 --> 00:19:51,120 Oh my goodness. 454 00:19:51,120 --> 00:19:52,120 All right. 455 00:19:52,120 --> 00:19:57,840 Well, we would pick a band that's appropriate for our student population. 456 00:19:57,840 --> 00:19:59,040 No doubt. 457 00:19:59,040 --> 00:20:00,040 That would be fun though. 458 00:20:00,040 --> 00:20:01,040 That would be fun. 459 00:20:01,040 --> 00:20:04,760 I think that would be really fun. 460 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:06,520 We didn't hear yours though, Nate. 461 00:20:06,520 --> 00:20:09,520 I don't know, man. 462 00:20:09,520 --> 00:20:13,040 I'm a jazz fan. 463 00:20:13,040 --> 00:20:17,000 So no one would come to my concert. 464 00:20:17,000 --> 00:20:18,000 I'm there. 465 00:20:18,000 --> 00:20:19,000 Okay. 466 00:20:19,000 --> 00:20:22,600 So very few people like, we're not going to sit out here this long and listen to jazz. 467 00:20:22,600 --> 00:20:24,560 What in the world? 468 00:20:24,560 --> 00:20:27,400 That sounds like a good fit for the breakfast, the midnight breakfast. 469 00:20:27,400 --> 00:20:28,400 Yes. 470 00:20:28,400 --> 00:20:29,400 There you go. 471 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:31,200 As long as they have sleeping bags because everyone will pass out. 472 00:20:31,200 --> 00:20:35,040 Have to eat those pancakes right in the KDR, right? 473 00:20:35,040 --> 00:20:38,200 But no, so I don't know. 474 00:20:38,200 --> 00:20:39,200 So many artists. 475 00:20:39,200 --> 00:20:43,400 I'm a Kendrick Lamar fan. 476 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:44,400 Oh yeah. 477 00:20:44,400 --> 00:20:45,400 Oh yeah. 478 00:20:45,400 --> 00:20:46,400 A J. Cole fan. 479 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:51,040 So I would think it would be dope. 480 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:52,720 I don't care who we bring. 481 00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:56,000 If we did something like that, it would be monumental on our campus. 482 00:20:56,000 --> 00:20:57,000 Oh yeah. 483 00:20:57,000 --> 00:20:58,000 It would be a first. 484 00:20:58,000 --> 00:20:59,000 Yeah. 485 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:00,000 Any first is monumental. 486 00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:01,000 No doubt. 487 00:21:01,000 --> 00:21:02,000 No doubt. 488 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:03,000 Like this. 489 00:21:03,000 --> 00:21:04,000 You got it right here. 490 00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:05,000 Right here. 491 00:21:05,000 --> 00:21:06,000 This is a first. 492 00:21:06,000 --> 00:21:07,760 And I think what he's doing is he's trying to set the stage, right? 493 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:09,760 So the first. 494 00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:10,760 Right. 495 00:21:10,760 --> 00:21:15,000 I'm starting to think this is the whole reason you wanted to help with the podcast to get 496 00:21:15,000 --> 00:21:18,840 this concert to the college. 497 00:21:18,840 --> 00:21:20,800 It's been in the back of my mind. 498 00:21:20,800 --> 00:21:29,160 But no, the podcast, things like bringing concerts, anything like that, that are firsts 499 00:21:29,160 --> 00:21:34,040 are big steps and there's some learning curves involved and things like that and a lot that 500 00:21:34,040 --> 00:21:35,560 goes into it. 501 00:21:35,560 --> 00:21:42,280 But anything like that is monumental and it brings great power behind it and for years 502 00:21:42,280 --> 00:21:43,280 to come. 503 00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:46,640 But there again, it goes back to that, the question you was asking, what are the things 504 00:21:46,640 --> 00:21:48,200 that I would like to see? 505 00:21:48,200 --> 00:21:52,680 And seeing some growth and change and momentum, these are the things that are necessary, right? 506 00:21:52,680 --> 00:21:55,600 Like hosting a TED Talk. 507 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:56,960 We can do it. 508 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:58,920 We really can do it. 509 00:21:58,920 --> 00:22:02,040 And we have the personnel to do it and facilitate something like that. 510 00:22:02,040 --> 00:22:03,040 Host a TED Talk. 511 00:22:03,040 --> 00:22:07,040 Now all of a sudden, institutions are coming here to give professional development and 512 00:22:07,040 --> 00:22:08,040 to hear more. 513 00:22:08,040 --> 00:22:13,200 And all of a sudden, the people in our communities and expanding out of our communities are paying 514 00:22:13,200 --> 00:22:19,120 attention because now there's a TED Talk being hosted in Williamsport, the home of the Little 515 00:22:19,120 --> 00:22:20,720 League World Series, right? 516 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,720 That's another commercial break. 517 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:26,360 Well, you know who's going to get tapped to be the speaker. 518 00:22:26,360 --> 00:22:27,360 Not me. 519 00:22:27,360 --> 00:22:29,760 But it would be, it's fun. 520 00:22:29,760 --> 00:22:32,720 I think that those are the things. 521 00:22:32,720 --> 00:22:37,540 I just finished the Innovation Series, so the Blue Belt with the Eureka Ranch, right? 522 00:22:37,540 --> 00:22:42,360 And I think that in that course, there's a system to innovation. 523 00:22:42,360 --> 00:22:48,280 And that's something that I think our institution should, like we do well, but I think we can 524 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:52,480 really embody that and do that at an amazing level beyond well. 525 00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:54,120 You get what I'm saying? 526 00:22:54,120 --> 00:22:56,220 But there's a system to innovation. 527 00:22:56,220 --> 00:22:58,440 It's not just throw something out there and then, oh, I think it works. 528 00:22:58,440 --> 00:23:03,840 I think, no, it's gather data, trial it, pilot it, let's vet it and see if it works. 529 00:23:03,840 --> 00:23:07,980 And if it works like that idea of the concert, we will vet it and see if it works. 530 00:23:07,980 --> 00:23:12,400 And if it makes sense with everything, with our stakeholders and with our students, does 531 00:23:12,400 --> 00:23:13,960 it speaks to our mission? 532 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:15,660 Does it speak to the students? 533 00:23:15,660 --> 00:23:17,120 Does it speak to our values? 534 00:23:17,120 --> 00:23:23,400 And if so, and we have the resources to do it, maybe a concert coming up. 535 00:23:23,400 --> 00:23:24,400 I don't know. 536 00:23:24,400 --> 00:23:25,400 I didn't just vet it. 537 00:23:25,400 --> 00:23:28,840 I'm just saying that's what the process will look, because there's a system, right? 538 00:23:28,840 --> 00:23:30,840 And then we'll build from there. 539 00:23:30,840 --> 00:23:36,340 And concerts more on the casual, relaxed side of things to give students like a little celebration 540 00:23:36,340 --> 00:23:37,340 at the end of the year. 541 00:23:37,340 --> 00:23:42,080 Definitely, like the TED Talks, TEDx hold conference here in Williamsport. 542 00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:43,440 I think that would be huge. 543 00:23:43,440 --> 00:23:48,360 That kind of goes back to the night of empowerment that we held here in Williamsport, which I 544 00:23:48,360 --> 00:23:49,360 thought was a great event. 545 00:23:49,360 --> 00:23:54,160 And I think we need more events like that, because students love going out to those and 546 00:23:54,160 --> 00:23:56,320 you learn a lot, something like that. 547 00:23:56,320 --> 00:24:02,160 An hour, two-hour long presentation conference, whatever it may be, you get a lot out of that 548 00:24:02,160 --> 00:24:08,040 and you kind of come back from it, thinking back on it and feeling like, wow, that was 549 00:24:08,040 --> 00:24:09,040 powerful. 550 00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:10,040 It was. 551 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,160 And a couple of students got internships off of it as well. 552 00:24:12,160 --> 00:24:14,320 So that's a big deal. 553 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:18,920 Now I might be wrong, but I think there was a TedEx Williamsport group. 554 00:24:18,920 --> 00:24:22,680 I'm not sure if they're still active, but I think that might be some summer homework 555 00:24:22,680 --> 00:24:23,680 for you, Jason. 556 00:24:23,680 --> 00:24:24,680 Oh yeah, definitely. 557 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:25,680 Find that out. 558 00:24:25,680 --> 00:24:26,680 That's your homework. 559 00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:30,560 That will be huge. 560 00:24:30,560 --> 00:24:31,840 That's a big deal. 561 00:24:31,840 --> 00:24:32,840 Yeah. 562 00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:33,840 Big deal. 563 00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:35,760 All right, so what we got next, J? 564 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:36,760 Oh yeah. 565 00:24:36,760 --> 00:24:43,160 So just kind of going off, what do you see as one of our biggest challenges here at Penn 566 00:24:43,160 --> 00:24:44,160 College? 567 00:24:44,160 --> 00:24:49,960 I know we kind of talked a little bit about being with the hidden gem and how we're trying 568 00:24:49,960 --> 00:24:53,320 to move on from that and grow upon that. 569 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:58,240 And we talked a little bit about innovation, the Eureka Ranch, Blue Belt, and things that 570 00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:04,440 we offer that people outside of Penn College may not know that we offer those things. 571 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:09,560 I found Penn College through a Google search of innovative schools, and Penn College came 572 00:25:09,560 --> 00:25:12,980 up for number three on the Northeast region. 573 00:25:12,980 --> 00:25:19,000 We have a student from the Bahamas, I don't want to be wrong, from Caribbean. 574 00:25:19,000 --> 00:25:23,520 And he looked up innovative colleges, and he found Penn College. 575 00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:25,640 I think we were number two. 576 00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:31,000 And so the question was, we need to work on that SEO. 577 00:25:31,000 --> 00:25:34,720 You just got done saying this wasn't a marketing problem. 578 00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:40,040 I was like, no, Nate, no we're not. 579 00:25:40,040 --> 00:25:45,160 But no, but like you said, people are trying, they're just searching and they're finding 580 00:25:45,160 --> 00:25:47,360 us. 581 00:25:47,360 --> 00:25:49,020 Still the hidden jewel, right? 582 00:25:49,020 --> 00:25:50,500 But they're finding us. 583 00:25:50,500 --> 00:25:58,680 Even if we have close to 5,000 that found us, what would it be if we're no longer hidden? 584 00:25:58,680 --> 00:26:01,600 If we're not hidden anymore? 585 00:26:01,600 --> 00:26:04,240 I don't know if we would be able to contain what's coming, right? 586 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:05,800 Like it would be that much. 587 00:26:05,800 --> 00:26:09,040 And to me, that's exciting. 588 00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:13,720 It makes me go back to my office and say, hey, we need to look at how we're going to 589 00:26:13,720 --> 00:26:14,720 handle this. 590 00:26:14,720 --> 00:26:17,680 Are we prepared for what's to come? 591 00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:18,680 That's encouraging. 592 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,680 It shows opportunity. 593 00:26:20,680 --> 00:26:26,040 I think one of the areas that would be an opportunity, just coming off of the innovation 594 00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:36,360 series, sometimes we're so busy, we don't make room for investments in the future. 595 00:26:36,360 --> 00:26:41,880 And what I mean by that is we don't take time, we don't allot or schedule ourselves time 596 00:26:41,880 --> 00:26:46,160 to be innovative because we're always doing the next thing or we're always putting out 597 00:26:46,160 --> 00:26:47,240 a fire. 598 00:26:47,240 --> 00:26:54,480 And so I think just systematically looking at where we are as an institution, every department, 599 00:26:54,480 --> 00:27:01,400 every person and being authentic and saying, hey, all of us are busy, but are we all this 600 00:27:01,400 --> 00:27:03,600 busy? 601 00:27:03,600 --> 00:27:12,680 If everyone is this busy, I think is the Eisenhower matrix says, if everything is urgent and important, 602 00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:14,680 nothing is. 603 00:27:14,680 --> 00:27:21,000 So if everyone is that busy, I'm just being real animated, that busy, not really that 604 00:27:21,000 --> 00:27:22,000 busy. 605 00:27:22,000 --> 00:27:26,600 It's a facade. 606 00:27:26,600 --> 00:27:30,400 But if we say, OK, I have a lot of things on my plate and I'm managing my time well 607 00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:35,160 and I'm a schedule, every two weeks I'm a schedule an hour or once a month I'm a schedule 608 00:27:35,160 --> 00:27:39,320 an hour where we have an innovative hour in my department. 609 00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:43,880 Then this is the hour when we sit down and we don't cut out any ideas, just spitball 610 00:27:43,880 --> 00:27:44,880 out. 611 00:27:44,880 --> 00:27:49,600 So we have a list and then the next hour we're going to come through and pick out two and 612 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:51,320 we're going to go through the process. 613 00:27:51,320 --> 00:27:53,640 There's a process to innovation. 614 00:27:53,640 --> 00:27:55,120 We're going to go through the process on two. 615 00:27:55,120 --> 00:27:59,120 Then we come back and we'll go through the process on the next until we figure out what 616 00:27:59,120 --> 00:28:04,080 we can do best or until we figure out how to better manage the time so we can innovate. 617 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:05,080 Wow. 618 00:28:05,080 --> 00:28:07,080 That was a lot. 619 00:28:07,080 --> 00:28:12,560 So do you see, like, can you give a little bit of a preview of any of the recent innovations 620 00:28:12,560 --> 00:28:16,840 or things that you see come into fruition in your future? 621 00:28:16,840 --> 00:28:19,240 Currently I'm glad Carlos is in the building. 622 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:27,480 This is going to be a handoff I'm not prepared for. 623 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:28,640 So not at all. 624 00:28:28,640 --> 00:28:35,880 So something that I'm working on is my project was it's called the representation campaign. 625 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:40,280 And so because we are a predominantly white institution, it is what it is. 626 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:46,680 That's not bad, but because we are that, we have students that are of the global majority, 627 00:28:46,680 --> 00:28:48,720 come from various backgrounds. 628 00:28:48,720 --> 00:28:51,400 And what I want to do is do a representation campaign. 629 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:57,160 Are we going to hire 25% more diverse clients tomorrow? 630 00:28:57,160 --> 00:28:58,760 I mean, staff and faculty? 631 00:28:58,760 --> 00:28:59,760 No. 632 00:28:59,760 --> 00:29:02,200 Are we going to increase our student body population by 25%? 633 00:29:02,200 --> 00:29:03,680 No, we're not. 634 00:29:03,680 --> 00:29:07,480 But what we can do is show representation and imaging. 635 00:29:07,480 --> 00:29:18,240 So my project was to go through every major and find greats in that particular field. 636 00:29:18,240 --> 00:29:19,660 So construction, right? 637 00:29:19,660 --> 00:29:27,000 So find greats that someone that has a disability or someone that's transgender in that community, 638 00:29:27,000 --> 00:29:30,000 someone that is of the global majority in that community. 639 00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:31,000 I don't say minorities. 640 00:29:31,000 --> 00:29:33,960 I say global majority. 641 00:29:33,960 --> 00:29:35,720 There's a research around it. 642 00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:36,720 Hello. 643 00:29:36,720 --> 00:29:37,720 Okay. 644 00:29:37,720 --> 00:29:38,720 So. 645 00:29:38,720 --> 00:29:44,960 And then we have these pictures and images of different people within construction, and 646 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:48,480 we hang those and line the walls with them. 647 00:29:48,480 --> 00:29:49,480 What does that do? 648 00:29:49,480 --> 00:29:51,400 Does that make our campus more diverse? 649 00:29:51,400 --> 00:29:52,640 No, it doesn't. 650 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:54,160 But it shows representation. 651 00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:58,760 So when students are coming on our campus or family members are on our campus, they 652 00:29:58,760 --> 00:30:00,880 can say, oh, this is the culture. 653 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:01,880 They embody this. 654 00:30:01,880 --> 00:30:02,880 They welcome this. 655 00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:04,520 This is a part of who they are. 656 00:30:04,520 --> 00:30:06,840 I think I'll be okay if I stop here. 657 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:11,680 If I stop here and not go to the next institution and make this my choice, I think I'll be okay. 658 00:30:11,680 --> 00:30:15,400 And I think what it does is culturally, it makes everyone more aware as well. 659 00:30:15,400 --> 00:30:20,120 And we do that in every major across our entire campus. 660 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:21,120 That's great. 661 00:30:21,120 --> 00:30:22,120 I love that. 662 00:30:22,120 --> 00:30:23,120 Representation campaign. 663 00:30:23,120 --> 00:30:24,120 I appreciate that. 664 00:30:24,120 --> 00:30:25,120 Yes. 665 00:30:25,120 --> 00:30:26,120 Good job. 666 00:30:26,120 --> 00:30:27,120 Let us know what you need. 667 00:30:27,120 --> 00:30:29,460 I'll speak for Carlos. 668 00:30:29,460 --> 00:30:32,760 But Sumer knows exactly where that work's going to go. 669 00:30:32,760 --> 00:30:34,960 From here to here. 670 00:30:34,960 --> 00:30:43,000 But I think that it will be so low cost, high yield. 671 00:30:43,000 --> 00:30:47,800 And when we think about concerts, we have to, you know, you don't find the dopest artist 672 00:30:47,800 --> 00:30:52,280 who's charging $60,000 a show, right? 673 00:30:52,280 --> 00:30:54,240 $150,000 a show. 674 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:59,200 You have to find the next artist as they're inching their way in or someone on their way 675 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,840 out. 676 00:31:01,840 --> 00:31:02,840 Low cost. 677 00:31:02,840 --> 00:31:06,760 And you get a high yield, right? 678 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:07,760 That's my idea. 679 00:31:07,760 --> 00:31:12,000 But we have so many brilliant ideas that are coming through the pipeline. 680 00:31:12,000 --> 00:31:14,720 So I can't wait to see where we are. 681 00:31:14,720 --> 00:31:18,720 So what if someone has an idea, someone's listening to this and they have a really great 682 00:31:18,720 --> 00:31:19,720 idea? 683 00:31:19,720 --> 00:31:20,720 What do they do? 684 00:31:20,720 --> 00:31:22,400 That's a great question. 685 00:31:22,400 --> 00:31:26,340 We don't have a think tank space yet. 686 00:31:26,340 --> 00:31:28,320 And I think we need to create a think tank space. 687 00:31:28,320 --> 00:31:32,460 So if you have a great idea and you're like, I don't want it to get squandered, shoot me 688 00:31:32,460 --> 00:31:33,460 an email. 689 00:31:33,460 --> 00:31:37,240 You know, nwoods at, you know, the rest. 690 00:31:37,240 --> 00:31:38,240 PCT.edu. 691 00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:39,560 Put it in the show notes. 692 00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:40,560 Yeah. 693 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:44,000 Just shoot me an email and I'll put it in an innovative folder that I have so then it's 694 00:31:44,000 --> 00:31:47,100 not put to the, it's not thrown away. 695 00:31:47,100 --> 00:31:51,160 But I think that's something we can start thinking about big picture is how do we get 696 00:31:51,160 --> 00:31:55,200 these ideas out and they not get cut down? 697 00:31:55,200 --> 00:32:02,880 And that just the psychology, the counseling in me starts to think of the word trust next. 698 00:32:02,880 --> 00:32:06,800 If I put my idea out there, can I trust that it's going to fully be vetted? 699 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:11,640 Or is it going to be put to the side? 700 00:32:11,640 --> 00:32:14,000 And so with me, it won't be put to the side. 701 00:32:14,000 --> 00:32:18,760 It's going to be in a folder because I'm not the innovative team, right? 702 00:32:18,760 --> 00:32:22,040 But I think we can create something where we can start looking at innovative ways to 703 00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:25,960 enhance our campus. 704 00:32:25,960 --> 00:32:30,200 Something I've been working on and a couple other students and a couple faculty are student 705 00:32:30,200 --> 00:32:31,200 run businesses. 706 00:32:31,200 --> 00:32:32,200 Yeah. 707 00:32:32,200 --> 00:32:34,840 So any insight on there? 708 00:32:34,840 --> 00:32:39,960 Any of your thoughts on student-run businesses and they mean coming to Penn College? 709 00:32:39,960 --> 00:32:40,960 Yeah. 710 00:32:40,960 --> 00:32:43,120 So one, I think that's genius. 711 00:32:43,120 --> 00:32:44,960 We're teaching. 712 00:32:44,960 --> 00:32:47,220 There are a couple of parts to that that I think are important. 713 00:32:47,220 --> 00:32:50,160 So the first thing is one, we need that, right? 714 00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:55,440 We need if we're teaching you how to work for someone, we should also teach you how 715 00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,240 to work for yourself. 716 00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:00,600 You should also teach financial literacy. 717 00:33:00,600 --> 00:33:05,360 We have students coming out of here making more money than their parents ever made. 718 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:10,800 And somebody's going to get some new toys. 719 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:15,840 And so how do we just give you the resources so that you don't put yourself in a bind 720 00:33:15,840 --> 00:33:19,580 because now you have access to more resources than you ever could. 721 00:33:19,580 --> 00:33:23,940 This is one of the things that most people struggle with is when people hit the lottery, 722 00:33:23,940 --> 00:33:26,840 you know, the mass majority of people that hit the lottery end up in worse debt than 723 00:33:26,840 --> 00:33:28,840 they were before they hit the lottery. 724 00:33:28,840 --> 00:33:34,120 Well, if I'm making more money than my parents ever made, and I'm just starting, that's 725 00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:35,960 lottery. 726 00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,120 That is hitting the lottery, right? 727 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:43,360 And I've never learned how to manage these resources, then that can create a situation. 728 00:33:43,360 --> 00:33:49,560 So with this having the student-run businesses, I think what it will do is it will give us 729 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:54,600 new insight or give us push us to this place where we start thinking about financial literacy, 730 00:33:54,600 --> 00:33:55,600 how to run a business. 731 00:33:55,600 --> 00:33:56,840 What does that look like? 732 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:57,920 How do you do your paperwork? 733 00:33:57,920 --> 00:33:58,920 How do you file your paperwork? 734 00:33:58,920 --> 00:34:03,240 And I mean, and it gives you the confidence to go out and work for someone else, respect 735 00:34:03,240 --> 00:34:08,080 helping someone grow their business, and then still also do your thing if you decide to 736 00:34:08,080 --> 00:34:10,820 do so and you have the confidence to do it. 737 00:34:10,820 --> 00:34:12,520 No better place to learn in right here. 738 00:34:12,520 --> 00:34:13,520 Oh, yeah. 739 00:34:13,520 --> 00:34:18,520 With all the resources that Penn College has to offer and the spaces and everything like 740 00:34:18,520 --> 00:34:24,520 that, I think we can really grow an entrepreneurial spirit and entrepreneurial culture mixed with 741 00:34:24,520 --> 00:34:26,360 the innovation of Penn College. 742 00:34:26,360 --> 00:34:27,360 Absolutely. 743 00:34:27,360 --> 00:34:28,360 And do some great things. 744 00:34:28,360 --> 00:34:29,440 I think it will change. 745 00:34:29,440 --> 00:34:32,640 I think that alone will change how we teach. 746 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:34,720 Oh, yeah. 747 00:34:34,720 --> 00:34:35,760 How we teach. 748 00:34:35,760 --> 00:34:42,120 And then it also, what it also does is it reminds us as institutions, because sometimes 749 00:34:42,120 --> 00:34:48,020 we think because we have a doctorate or a degree or a certificate or we have some experience 750 00:34:48,020 --> 00:34:52,240 that we're smartest in the room, but that's not true always. 751 00:34:52,240 --> 00:34:58,840 And so we're smarter when we have more minds in the mix instead of just one mind. 752 00:34:58,840 --> 00:35:05,760 And so sitting down, listening to your input makes me better and it helps us as a campus 753 00:35:05,760 --> 00:35:06,760 big picture. 754 00:35:06,760 --> 00:35:10,940 And so I think there's a lot that we can learn from our students if we give them an opportunity 755 00:35:10,940 --> 00:35:15,980 for you to voice your opinions and your thoughts. 756 00:35:15,980 --> 00:35:16,980 So what do you see? 757 00:35:16,980 --> 00:35:23,920 You talked about some near-future goals and some things coming to fruition here. 758 00:35:23,920 --> 00:35:28,480 What do you see for big picture like 10 years down the road here at Penn College? 759 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:38,240 Just thoughts like anything you think that you'd like to see down the road or anything? 760 00:35:38,240 --> 00:35:41,080 Wow. 761 00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:49,640 What I see is a campus that is more diverse than a city. 762 00:35:49,640 --> 00:35:54,180 And I see the city. 763 00:35:54,180 --> 00:35:59,560 What I see in my mind or my hope would be is our institution becomes the hub for the 764 00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,440 city. 765 00:36:01,440 --> 00:36:07,040 Our resources, connections, business, ag, whatever you want to call it will come, will 766 00:36:07,040 --> 00:36:10,520 be the center and will be the hub. 767 00:36:10,520 --> 00:36:15,300 And I think that's what most institutions really want to be, is be the innovative space 768 00:36:15,300 --> 00:36:20,120 or the hub and whatever community they're in so that everyone is going in and off the 769 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:21,120 campus. 770 00:36:21,120 --> 00:36:24,920 It would be amazing to look out and we see people walking and spending time on our campus 771 00:36:24,920 --> 00:36:26,680 that's not even a part of our campus. 772 00:36:26,680 --> 00:36:30,560 Not to do harm, but because this is the place to be. 773 00:36:30,560 --> 00:36:34,640 I'm just, families just, you need to see, they're walking their children when they're 774 00:36:34,640 --> 00:36:40,440 five and six and seven across our campus to say, oh, you wouldn't believe what it was? 775 00:36:40,440 --> 00:36:41,440 Ten years ago. 776 00:36:41,440 --> 00:36:46,680 Oh, I can't wait to see you come on this campus. 777 00:36:46,680 --> 00:36:53,640 That's what my dream, that's my selfish dream, is to see my children walk off of this campus 778 00:36:53,640 --> 00:36:58,240 as graduates and going into the world doing great things. 779 00:36:58,240 --> 00:36:59,280 I really like that. 780 00:36:59,280 --> 00:37:02,240 I think it plays into everything that we've kind of talked about. 781 00:37:02,240 --> 00:37:06,920 You have the community coming to those Ted Talks and the Knights of Empowerment and you 782 00:37:06,920 --> 00:37:11,080 have the community supporting our student run businesses and things like that. 783 00:37:11,080 --> 00:37:18,440 That's, I mean, at the end of the day, I'm a fan of community so I don't see us operating 784 00:37:18,440 --> 00:37:19,820 outside of community. 785 00:37:19,820 --> 00:37:23,720 We need each other in order to build. 786 00:37:23,720 --> 00:37:25,240 Yeah. 787 00:37:25,240 --> 00:37:31,600 So knowing your role here with us is to spark transformation, do you have a call to action 788 00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:35,160 for our community here in Penn College? 789 00:37:35,160 --> 00:37:43,920 Yeah, so my first call to action would be be patient with yourselves and with each other 790 00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:49,080 as we're learning to engage in different population groups. 791 00:37:49,080 --> 00:37:54,280 And so if this is a learning institution, if someone uses the wrong pronouns or say 792 00:37:54,280 --> 00:37:59,040 something that's offensive, don't immediately jump to defense. 793 00:37:59,040 --> 00:38:02,920 I can't say don't be offended because it may hurt, right? 794 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:10,120 But if this is a learning institution, at least give them the space to learn. 795 00:38:10,120 --> 00:38:14,240 So teach them how to say it the right way or to do it the right way and then give them 796 00:38:14,240 --> 00:38:17,040 space to learn to adapt so that they can. 797 00:38:17,040 --> 00:38:21,480 And I think that's really important on our campus is if anything new is going to come 798 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:27,320 in, sometimes we fear what we don't understand, but we have to be patient and learn. 799 00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,200 This is an educational institution. 800 00:38:30,200 --> 00:38:33,000 And if you can't learn here, where do you learn at? 801 00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:40,920 If you can't learn at a school, it sounds simple, but it's a big deal. 802 00:38:40,920 --> 00:38:45,840 If you can't learn at a school, where do you learn? 803 00:38:45,840 --> 00:38:48,960 So we have to really be patient with ourselves. 804 00:38:48,960 --> 00:38:53,280 I don't care who you are, where you from, your background, we have to really be like 805 00:38:53,280 --> 00:38:58,140 be patient and say, you said that wrong, that hurt. 806 00:38:58,140 --> 00:39:02,240 This is how I would prefer you to say it. 807 00:39:02,240 --> 00:39:05,200 And I may not talk to you ever again, and that's okay. 808 00:39:05,200 --> 00:39:07,120 But what did I do? 809 00:39:07,120 --> 00:39:11,200 I took the time to walk you through how to do it the right way the next time. 810 00:39:11,200 --> 00:39:15,080 That's what it takes. 811 00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:20,040 So about a little bit of a piece of advice or anything like that, that you can leave 812 00:39:20,040 --> 00:39:22,440 us with today. 813 00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:27,040 Okay, so this one of my favorite things. 814 00:39:27,040 --> 00:39:30,880 My uncle told me this years ago, and I believe it through and through. 815 00:39:30,880 --> 00:39:35,280 My uncle told me this, he said, Nate, where your mind goes often enough, your body will 816 00:39:35,280 --> 00:39:37,880 soon follow. 817 00:39:37,880 --> 00:39:41,120 Where your mind goes often enough, your body will soon follow. 818 00:39:41,120 --> 00:39:46,680 So the piece of advice is if you don't know affirmation statements or how to talk positive 819 00:39:46,680 --> 00:39:52,080 to yourself, look it up on your phone. 820 00:39:52,080 --> 00:39:56,880 Go see, speak to one of the counselors about affirmation statements, talk to your bosses 821 00:39:56,880 --> 00:39:59,600 or one of your professors, or come see me. 822 00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:03,800 But you have to start talking positive to yourself, particularly if you hear a lot of 823 00:40:03,800 --> 00:40:08,260 negative self-talk, or you do a lot of negative self-talk, or that's what you've been taught 824 00:40:08,260 --> 00:40:09,480 to do. 825 00:40:09,480 --> 00:40:10,640 This is an opportunity. 826 00:40:10,640 --> 00:40:11,720 Learn an institution. 827 00:40:11,720 --> 00:40:15,720 Learn how to talk positive to yourself, because where your mind goes often enough, your body 828 00:40:15,720 --> 00:40:16,800 will follow. 829 00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:19,280 It will eventually follow you there. 830 00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:24,840 So be encouraged, keep your head up, and finish the semester strong. 831 00:40:24,840 --> 00:40:28,320 That's a great note to end on. 832 00:40:28,320 --> 00:40:32,360 Thank you for taking the time out of your busy schedule to be here with us today. 833 00:40:32,360 --> 00:40:33,360 Not too busy for this. 834 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:35,240 I appreciate you. 835 00:40:35,240 --> 00:40:36,400 Thank you, Jason. 836 00:40:36,400 --> 00:40:37,720 Thank you, Dr. Woods, for your time. 837 00:40:37,720 --> 00:40:38,880 It's my pleasure. 838 00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:39,880 Thank you. 839 00:40:39,880 --> 00:41:09,800 See you next time. 840 00:41:10,360 --> 00:41:11,360 It's been real. 841 00:41:11,360 --> 00:41:39,920 Catch you next time.